Comments on: what keeps us in the dark http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/ Chief Morale Officer Kirk Weisler's Thought 4 the Day Tue, 22 May 2012 11:35:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Craig http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7700 Craig Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:15:53 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7700 <p>He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him<br /> He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child. Teach him.<br /> He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep. Wake him.<br /> He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man. Follow him.</p> <p>I think too often education traps us by leading us to believe we know<br /> everything about a particular thing and it therefore blinds us to other<br /> possibilities. We get trapped in the first state of the proverb. The few<br /> individuals that I¹ve meet in my life that I consider truly wise know a<br /> particular thing well, yet recognize there is still more to learn and are<br /> always open to learning more. (The word you used to describe this in the<br /> leadership workshop was humility.) They also have core values that guide<br /> them through the unknowns that arise.</p> <p>Warm Regards,</p> <p>Craig</p> <p>--<br /> J. Craig Bennion<br /> University of Utah<br /> Office of Information Technology</p> He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child. Teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep. Wake him.
He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man. Follow him.

I think too often education traps us by leading us to believe we know
everything about a particular thing and it therefore blinds us to other
possibilities. We get trapped in the first state of the proverb. The few
individuals that I¹ve meet in my life that I consider truly wise know a
particular thing well, yet recognize there is still more to learn and are
always open to learning more. (The word you used to describe this in the
leadership workshop was humility.) They also have core values that guide
them through the unknowns that arise.

Warm Regards,

Craig

–
J. Craig Bennion
University of Utah
Office of Information Technology

]]> By: Susan http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7527 Susan Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:43:18 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7527 I like what Tom says above by combining the two..... I also think that not only arrogance is alive and well, but fear..... fear of failure, fear of losing rank, fear of being "found out" -- or fear that possibly one is not as smart as they want to believe that they are or that they want everyone else to think that they are... unfortunately, all of those can paralyze a person's future and opportunities for growth on any level. The harder the struggle for power only seems to feed the fear and the result is usually a seemingly closed minded or hard hearted person or even smug... when in reality, they are just scared......... it's a vicious cycle.... I like what Tom says above by combining the two….. I also think that not only arrogance is alive and well, but fear….. fear of failure, fear of losing rank, fear of being “found out” — or fear that possibly one is not as smart as they want to believe that they are or that they want everyone else to think that they are… unfortunately, all of those can paralyze a person’s future and opportunities for growth on any level. The harder the struggle for power only seems to feed the fear and the result is usually a seemingly closed minded or hard hearted person or even smug… when in reality, they are just scared……… it’s a vicious cycle….

]]> By: Steve http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7524 Steve Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:56:04 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7524 The range of what we think and do is limited by What we fail to notice. And because we fail to Notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.. R. D. LAING We will be in the dark until we notice that we failed to notice. This goes on through out my life. Most of the time I notice after the opportunity. I am working on decreasing that gap. The range of what we think and do is limited by
What we fail to notice. And because we fail to
Notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can
do to change; until we notice how failing to notice
shapes our thoughts and deeds..

R. D. LAING

We will be in the dark until we notice that we failed to notice.

This goes on through out my life. Most of the time I notice after the opportunity. I am working on decreasing that gap.

]]> By: Brent A. Horst http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7510 Brent A. Horst Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:31:49 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7510 <p>Your quotes of "keeping in the dark" reminds me of the healing of the blind man in the gospel of Mark. First he saw "people like trees walking" but after Jesus touched him again, he saw clearly. Why the two-stage healing? Was it to show that often we "see" but don't "see clearly". Perhaps education allows us to see but experience and collaborating with others, allows us to see clearly and truly understand. Academic education turns into true knowledge only after using what we know and expanding that knowledge by working with and trusting those around us.</p> <p>Your note inspired a thought on a different concept of the need to look to the future rather than only looking at the past. Not sure if I heard it somewhere or made it up.</p> <p>"To see the sunrise we must turn to look where it will appear, rather than continuing to look where it was last"</p> <p>Similar to a quote about Wayne Gretzky, the greatest hockey player of all time. "He knows where the puck is going to be, not where it is" (not sure who said this one)</p> <p>Have a great day!</p> <p>Thanks,<br /> Brent<br /> Brent A. Horst (ext. 4620)<br /> Director, Corporate Applications<br /> Home Hardware Stores Limited<br /> 34 Henry Street West<br /> St. Jacobs, Ontario N0B 2N0<br /> brent.horst@homehardware.ca</p> Your quotes of “keeping in the dark” reminds me of the healing of the blind man in the gospel of Mark. First he saw “people like trees walking” but after Jesus touched him again, he saw clearly. Why the two-stage healing? Was it to show that often we “see” but don’t “see clearly”. Perhaps education allows us to see but experience and collaborating with others, allows us to see clearly and truly understand. Academic education turns into true knowledge only after using what we know and expanding that knowledge by working with and trusting those around us.

Your note inspired a thought on a different concept of the need to look to the future rather than only looking at the past. Not sure if I heard it somewhere or made it up.

“To see the sunrise we must turn to look where it will appear, rather than continuing to look where it was last”

Similar to a quote about Wayne Gretzky, the greatest hockey player of all time. “He knows where the puck is going to be, not where it is” (not sure who said this one)

Have a great day!

Thanks,
Brent
Brent A. Horst (ext. 4620)
Director, Corporate Applications
Home Hardware Stores Limited
34 Henry Street West
St. Jacobs, Ontario N0B 2N0
brent.horst@homehardware.ca

]]> By: Tom http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7509 Tom Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:30:28 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7509 <p>Sounds like it could have been advise well taken by the past Bush administration. ; -)<br /> The second one could use a well placed comma or two. Or maybe single quotes around .. 'knows it' already.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Tom Aguilar-Downing<br /> Senior Associate<br /> Ecolab Service Desk</p> Sounds like it could have been advise well taken by the past Bush administration. ; -)
The second one could use a well placed comma or two. Or maybe single quotes around .. ‘knows it’ already.

Thanks,

Tom Aguilar-Downing
Senior Associate
Ecolab Service Desk

]]> By: kirkweisler http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7508 kirkweisler Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:30:02 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7508 Kirk, I really like the first one. It is more succinct. I have heard you speak (HDI in Las Vegas, 2005) and know you could express the second convincingly, but the first stands on its own in print and communicates just fine. You are reminding me of a motto I tossed off one day and was then surprised that it stuck: "When being right is your strong suit, you need practice admitting when you're wrong" Take care and thanks for the years of inspiration. Glenn Stowers Kirk,
I really like the first one. It is more succinct. I have heard you speak (HDI in Las Vegas, 2005) and know you could express the second convincingly, but the first stands on its own in print and communicates just fine.

You are reminding me of a motto I tossed off one day and was then surprised that it stuck:
“When being right is your strong suit, you need practice admitting when you’re wrong”

Take care and thanks for the years of inspiration.

Glenn Stowers

]]> By: kirkweisler http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7506 kirkweisler Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:25:10 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7506 Kirk: What you seem to be touching on is one's blindness to the limitlessness of our own potential caused by one's own ego centric certainty. So I have included a quote I like from Eric Hoffer -- I may even gotten it from one of your T4D's. It somehow seems to touch on a related message. Perhaps this may stimulate your thinking in a way to complete your own quote....and above all as humans we give our most to others when we think less about ourselves. In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists. Eric Hoffer Regards, Floyd Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW, What ride! Kirk:

What you seem to be touching on is one’s blindness to the limitlessness of our own potential caused by one’s own ego centric certainty. So I have included a quote I like from Eric Hoffer — I may even gotten it from one of your T4D’s. It somehow seems to touch on a related message. Perhaps this may stimulate your thinking in a way to complete your own quote….and above all as humans we give our most to others when we think less about ourselves.
In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists. Eric Hoffer

Regards,
Floyd
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming — WOW, What ride!

]]> By: kirkweisler http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7504 kirkweisler Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:15:53 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7504 Kirk, I like them both but made a slight change to one for your consideration. “Often it is not ignorance but education and the certainty of one’s position that prevents them from seeing the light.” Kirk Weisler Thanks, Jackie Jump SR. Reconciliation Auditor Anthem/Wellpoint Kirk,

I like them both but made a slight change to one for your consideration.

“Often it is not ignorance but education and the certainty of one’s position that prevents them from seeing the light.” Kirk Weisler

Thanks,
Jackie Jump
SR. Reconciliation Auditor
Anthem/Wellpoint

]]> By: kirkweisler http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7503 kirkweisler Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:14:26 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7503 Don’t forget “Open yourselves up to the greater possibilities of your own potential” – Kirk Weisler Bryan Knotts Account Manager, Key Accounts bknotts@omniture.com Don’t forget
“Open yourselves up to the greater possibilities of your own potential” – Kirk Weisler

Bryan Knotts
Account Manager, Key Accounts
bknotts@omniture.com

]]> By: kirkweisler http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7501 kirkweisler Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:09:44 +0000 http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/2009/03/30/532/#comment-7501 Hi Kirk, I prefer your first draft because it emphasizes that someone IS educated and educated people will see themselves in that statement. I think the 2nd one might turn people off if they don’t see themselves as “unenlightened.” This is interesting to me because I have a totally different saying, but I think you have explained it so people understand it without an explanation. Mine is: “Where ever you go, there you are.” This leans more toward carrying all your “baggage” along with you even though you may have changed jobs, city of residence, or even a spouse. If one doesn’t open up to learning new things and changing perceptions, one’s new life will not see the improvements one was hoping for. Janet Botnen Washington State Administrative Office of the Courts janet.botnen@courts.wa.gov Hi Kirk,
I prefer your first draft because it emphasizes that someone IS educated and educated people will see themselves in that statement. I think the 2nd one might turn people off if they don’t see themselves as “unenlightened.”
This is interesting to me because I have a totally different saying, but I think you have explained it so people understand it without an explanation.
Mine is: “Where ever you go, there you are.” This leans more toward carrying all your “baggage” along with you even though you may have changed jobs, city of residence, or even a spouse. If one doesn’t open up to learning new things and changing perceptions, one’s new life will not see the improvements one was hoping for.

Janet Botnen
Washington State Administrative Office of the Courts
janet.botnen@courts.wa.gov

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